Having said that, I am still reading and evolving (excuse the pun) as I personally come to my own understanding of how to reconcile faith and science. At this stage I am reflecting on what is wisdom and what is knowledge as I see that faith and science follow from each respectively. As I am reflecting on this it is becoming more apparent to me that the two are completely different worldviews and both need to be deconstructed to find some sort of integration.

Keep up the great work – sharing musings and reflections really helps others to start thinking about their own thinking and processes.

It would be much better if those that believe in a Creator, would make a call to learn the correct view of Genesis, rather than clinging to their current false beliefs of Genesis.

Theistic evolution calls God a liar, when He specifically told Israel in Exodus 20:11, “For in six days, the Lord made heaven and Earth, the sea, and all there in them is…”. He told them this after defining the work week, in Exodus 20:9. When God told Joshua to march around Jericho for seven days, did God mean something other than 168 hours? If so, Joshua (from the tribe of Ephraim) should be STILL marching around those walls.

The doctrine of Creation Science, is also false, along with “ruin & restoration”, progressive creation, Day/Age, gap theories, and theistic evolution. All are unsuccessfully trying to explain the first chapter of Genesis, which they do not understand.

Creation Science begins with hypocrisy, declaring total belief in “literal interpretation” of the scriptures. That sounds nice, until you “put the Word” on their teachings. Where did the water come from on the first day? Did God create the birds on the fifth day before mankind, or after mankind on the sixth day? Did God create the land animals before mankind on the sixth day, or after Adam on the sixth day? On each of the previous questions, “young Earth” believers can’t give an honest answer. They begin to “redefine” the scriptures in an attempt to make them fit their false beliefs. When cornered, their escape path is to say “God will explain it when we get to Heaven”. That’s living in a delusion. Agnostics, atheists, and evolutionists need it explained to them NOW, so that they can be part of the church BEFORE Jesus returns.

The problem with young Earth believers is that they are brainwashed into thinking that accepting scientific reality of an “old earth” means denying the seven 24-hr days of the 168 hour Creation Week. Remember the “lack of knowledge” in Hosea 4:6?

Misunderstanding of the Genesis text leads to foolishness when advocating that the mammoths, giant mammals, dinosaurs, and dimetrodons all died in Noah’s flood, which was in 2611 BC. The foundations of a young Christian’s faith is shaken when they are confronted with the reality of ancient geologic ages of Earth’s history, and the 650+ million year fossil record (of death). Genesis does not teach, nor agrees with any “young Earth” doctrine. Biblical Reality conveys the correct view of Genesis, using “correct” literal interpretation, explaining what God was revealing to Moses (Observations of Moses).

We can remain in denial, which is not getting us anywhere, or we can learn the truth of Genesis, to enable us to expose the false conclusions of secular science. Which is it going to be?

Herman Cummings

Everyone who goes to see Expelled should have it tattoed across their foreheads. Render unto science the things which are science’s. It’s really not that terribly difficult.

The “God of the gaps” approach is, frankly, belittling to faith. “Well, we used to think that thunder was Thor throwing thunderbolts around, but now that we’ve moved past that, we think that protein interactions are the result of God’s magic.” As you point out, that is not a wise long-term move, as humans learn more things.

An additional thing that may help to put the Creations stories into context is how they conflicted with the other Creation stories of the day. On some levels the Creation stories are remarkable and theologically relevant just because they told the story of a creator ex nihilo, who creates from life (the breath of God quickening Adam), who has a definite purpose and path for history. The Babylonian creation story (one of the most prevalent and powerful at the time of Genesis’ writing) is an excellent example of this antithesis. In it you have the god’s at war, and the greatest god of the time is killed. From her body the earth is made, and from the blood of another god humanity is made.

For now, I’ll leave the conclusions of those thoughts up to the reader. I’ll be writing a blog entry of my own on the topic of the literary and theological importance of the stories soon.

I appreciate the idea that Christians need to appropriately balance reason and faith and this thought seems to underpin your article.

The problem I have with the integration of theistic evolutionary concepts with the Bible revolves around the elements of death and sin. The Bible appears to me to be clear that death was a result of sin, and not a part of God’s original perfect creation. “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men…” Rom 5:12

Theistic evolution implicitly has God using death (via natural selection) as one of the key mechanisms for creation. These two concepts seem at odds with each other.

Anyway just my 2c…

Kind regards,
Craig Price